There are still a few hours before dawn. The house is dark and still. You and your wife are sound asleep in your bedroom. Suddenly, the phone rings, startling you both from sleep. There is something ominous about that ringing phone, yet you feel compelled to answer. You reach over and bring the receiver to your ear.
From out of the silence, you hear the voice of a man who is lost and confused, asking for help. The voice is unmistakable. It belongs to your wife’s brother, but you know that’s impossible. Your wife’s brother passed away months ago. You attended his funeral service. Your mind reels trying to make sense of what you are hearing.
“Where am I? Why is it so dark? What has happened to me?” the voice pleads. You try and speak to the man, but he doesn’t seem to hear you. Suddenly, the line clicks and goes dead..
There are few paranormal experiences that can rival the sudden shock and emotional intensity of a ‘telephone call from the dead’. Formally known as technological after-death communications (ADC), they are usually described in positive terms, providing closure, reassurance or a final goodbye. Rarely, a phone call from the dead may be distressing, as illustrated in the story above. This chilling scene is based on a real experience shared by a commenter, signed ‘Siluan’, who has graciously allowed me to share his story in a post. I would like to examine why Siluan and his wife may have received such a call, and most importantly, how to help this family member find peace.
What follows is Siluan’s slightly abridged comment presenting the full detail of his experience (emphasis mine):
I am from an Eastern European country and 15 years ago I met my actual wife who is from the US and was visiting my country. We fell in love, married, and she moved to my country where we have lived ever since. Problem is, she had a brother in the US – a confirmed bachelor, who had presumed she would never marry and would take care of him in his old age. He absolutely hated me and never wanted to meet me or have any contact with me in all these years. He thought I had “stolen” his sister and it was my fault he was all alone in the US while she lived in a foreign country being married to me. I have to say all three of us are/were over 50 years of age.
We managed to juggle the relationship all this time, in that she would visit him, staying in the US for 1-2 months each year. I never saw him in person, and we only spoke on the phone 2 or 3 times when he was calling her and I happened to pick up the phone. Those times we only exchanged a few polite words – but this explains the fact that I know his voice very well.
This man passed away in February, 24 hours after getting his second COVID vaccine. He was alone at home, and was found 3 days after by a worried neighbour. According to his wishes, he was cremated with no religious service. This is what he wanted, leaving specific instructions about it in his will. My wife and I then travelled to the US to settle the inheritance, house, etc.
While we were in the US I received a very strange phone call. It was 5 in the morning, and I was asleep so at first didn’t really understand what was going on. The phone – a landline – rang normally, waking up my wife too – so it was not a dream. On the phone was my wife’s deceased brother – I explained above that I know his voice very well – he sounded very clear, not muffled or echoing. He seemed not to hear me and he did not answer any question from me – he was just talking, as if to himself.
What he said was this: I don’t know where I am; I don’t know how I got here; I am in darkness; I can’t seem to find my way out of this darkness; there is something very strange going on but I don’t know what this is; I can’t see; I don’t know what has happened to me.
I tried to talk to him, calling his name, etc., but he didn’t answer – he just kept repeating these phrases over and over, as if he could not hear me. Then the phone line started getting all kinds of clicks and it cut off. I was completely awake; what’s more, my wife was next to me and she saw me talk on the phone, though she could not hear what the other person was saying.
The landline has a system of recording calls, so we accessed it and it appeared as if the call had come from a common acquaintance in the UK. She is a 87-year-old, ill and bedridden woman. We called her back and of course she had not made any phone call to the US at that time (it was the middle of the night in the UK). Plus, she is a woman and the voice belonged to a man. She lives on her own, so the possibility of a prank call is highly improbable. Now I keep wondering; if this call really came from my wife’s deceased brother, why did he choose to call me, when in life we hardly ever spoke and he could not stand me? And second – what am I supposed to do now? I assume his soul is not at rest. I come from a Christian Orthodox tradition, in which it is a sin to cremate the deceased. He was a lapsed Catholic who rejected his faith and lived as a gay atheist.by Siluan on August 1, 2021
According to Bill Guggenheim and Judy Guggenheim (1995), authors of ‘Hello From Heaven: A New Field of Research – After-Death Communication Confirms that Life and Love are Eternal’, Technological ADCs are “the least common of the twelve major types of after-death communication (Guggenheim, Chapter 12, “Person to Person”).
Guggenheim et. al., go on to describe examples of telephone ADCs similar to Siluan’s experience. The call quality was variously described as ‘crystal clear’ or with voices that seemed far away. Some calls contained strange clicks or static. When the callers attempted to trace the source of the call, often the numbers were disconnected, unrelated or there was no record of the call being made. Interestingly, when the call drops, there is no dial tone or evidence of an actual ‘hang up’. The line simply drops, also described in Siluan’s experience.
The physical ‘how’ of technological ADCs remain a mystery. Skeptics would suggest that the phenomena is a result of hysterical grief, a sleep-induced hallucination, a terrible prank, or a normal call that is mistaken for an ADC. While I agree that all mundane explanations should be considered, they seem unlikely to explain this case. Siluan and his wife were both awakened by the phone call, so it’s impossible that Siluan dreamed the experience. The call was traced to the home of an acquaintance; an elderly bed-ridden woman who lived alone and confirmed that she did not make the call and had no visitors that night. Lastly, Siluan was not very close to the deceased, and therefore was not in hysterical grief. While we cannot conclusively prove that Siluan received a telephone call from his deceased brother-in-law, we will continue with our examination under that presumption.
The deceased brother-in-law’s words give us some insight into his environment and state of mind after death. Although his message was most certainly distressing, the darkness and confusion he relates has been described by other spirit communicators who passed under some very specific circumstances. Before we can explore how those circumstances result in a particular after-death experience, it’s important that you understand how the afterlife realms are said to function, or more specifically, how our consciousness is believed to operate when not focused through a physical brain on earth.
What we call ‘the afterlife’ is more akin to a mental state than a physical location. The degree that spirits perceive their environment after death as objective and persistent depends on the thought-responsiveness of that particular ‘level’ or ‘realm’, for lack of a better term. Earth, by comparison, has a low index of thought-responsiveness. We form an idea, but then must take physical action in order to bring that idea into fruition in our environment. When consciousness is decoupled form the body, the process seems to be much faster, translating thought into environmental states almost immediately.
To put it more simply, our beliefs, thoughts and attitudes create our afterlife experience. When souls first cross, they experience what they imagined the afterlife to be. In the case of those who don’t believe in life after death, the transition can be particularly difficult because there is no ‘blueprint’ in place. Often death itself is denied, since the spirit feels very much alive. However, without the physical apparatus to function on earth, spirits can become quite confused, resulting in a temporary void experience. I would presume that Siluan’s brother-in-law did not expect to die, or that death was sudden. Combined with a lack of belief in consciousness after death, it’s possible that he became somewhat stuck during his transition. Before we can discuss how to help Siluan’s brother-in-law come to terms with his death and pass peacefully into the spirit world, let’s first examine some additional factors that may have affected his state of mind and immediate after-death experience.
Siluan stated that he was ‘hated’ by his brother-in-law for apparently ‘stealing his sister’. His brother-in-law assumed she would remain unmarried in order to be responsible for his care. His feeling of entitlement over his sister’s life, with no regard for her own wishes, may have led this man to harbor a serious, long-term hatred for his sister’s husband and resentment of her happiness. Additionally, Siluan adds that his brother-in-law was “a lapsed Catholic who rejected his faith and lived as a gay atheist.” At the time when Siluan’s brother-in-law was likely discovering his sexual identity, homosexuality was condemned by the Church as an ‘abomination’. Messages of damnation from the pulpit may have created a strong sense of fear, shame, guilt or a feeling of persecution by God. It’s clear that at some point Siluan’s brother-in-law did live as a gay man, but his decision to ‘reject his faith’ may have been at least partly motivated by his belief that his faith rejected him.
To follow are two spirit communications that may bear similarity to the inferred after-death experience described by Siluan’s brother-in-law. To be clear, these examples were not selected to make a judgment about his character. We are investigating how specific circumstances at death may result in an after-death experience with qualities similar to what was described on the phone call.
The commonalities lie in three facts already presented:
- He was an atheist with no belief in an afterlife
- He possessed a hatred toward his brother-in-law and may have resented his sister’s happiness
- His death may have been sudden and unexpected
Let’s recall the words spoken by Siluan’s brother-in-law during this mysterious phone call and keep them in mind as we read about two other spirits in similar circumstances.
I don’t know where I am; I don’t know how I got here; I am in darkness; I can’t seem to find my way out of this darkness; there is something very strange going on but I don’t know what this is; I can’t see; I don’t know what has happened to me.
The first example comes from ‘A Wanderer in the Spirit Lands’, a text produced through clairaudience by medium A. Farnese in 1896. The spirit’s name is Franchezzo, self-described as a man who lived only for “the highest point of self-gratification” (p. 6). Franchezzo describes himself as vain and prideful, caring little for others in his pursuit of wealth and praise. He was involved in many passionate but empty relationships, and often moved on as soon as he had attained the object of his infatuation. Before his sudden death, he did meet a woman who he felt some real love for, but he died before they could elevate their affection into a true romance. Franchezzo also describes here his former belief about the afterlife, which is to say, he had none:
“..The dead feel nothing more; they turn to dust; they moulder to decay, and all is gone, all is lost to them; they have no more consciousness of anything. […] The priests of my own church had taught me so, but I had scorned them as fools, blind and knavish, who for their own ends taught that men lived again and could only get to heaven through a fate, of which they held the keys, keys that turned only for gold and at the bidding of those who were paid to say masses for the departed soul – priests who made dupes of silly frightened women and weak-minded men. […] I had said I would face death when it came, with the courage of those who know only that for them it must mean total extinction..”Franchezzo. A Wanderer in the Spirit Lands (p. 9). Start Publishing LLC. Kindle Edition.
Here Franchezzo tells us of his passing:
“And then! Ah! then there came for me an awful, and unexpected day, when with no warning, no sign to awaken me to my position, I was suddenly snatched from life and plunged into that gulf, that death of the body which awaits us all. And I knew not that I had died. I passed from some hours of suffering and agony into sleep – deep, dreamless sleep – and when I awoke it was to find myself alone and in total darkness. I could rise; I could move; surely I was better. but where was I? Why this darkness? why was no light left with me? I arose and groped as one does in a dark room, but I could find no light, hear not sound. there was nothing but the stillness, the darkness of death around me. Then I thought I would walk forward and find the door. I could move, thought slowly and feebly, and I groped on – for how long I know not. It seemed hours, for in my growing horror and dismay I felt I must find some one – some way out of this place; and to my despair I seemed never to find any door, any wall, anything. All seemed space and darkness round me. Overcome at last, I called out aloud! I shrieked, and no voice answered me. Then again and again I called, and still the silence; still no echo, even from my own voice, came back to cheer me.”Franchezzo. A Wanderer in the Spirit Lands (pp. 7-8). Start Publishing LLC. Kindle Edition.
Franchezzo’s experience is truly a frightening one, but thankfully, he is not lost to the darkness forever. He calls to the one person in his life that he felt true love for and a spark of light appears in the darkness. In that light, he is able to see her, but cannot speak to her. Over time, as he focuses on his selfless love for this young woman and not on his own vanity and pride, he is able to meet guides who help him find peace and usefulness in the spirit world.
The second example comes from ‘Heaven and Hell Unveiled’, by Stafford Betty. I featured this story also in my post “Sometimes You Don’t See the Light – The Void: A Place of Nothingness in the Afterlife” because it perfectly illustrates how certain specific circumstances may create this sensation of darkness and confusion after death.
The subject here is a wealthy southern belle named Marie who describes herself in her former life as “idolized by my parents, pampered, proud, and willful from my infancy” (Betty, p. 53). Marie cares only for money and attention from young men. When she loses the proposal of one young man named Charlie to her friend and rival, Sadie, Marie becomes enraged and obsessed with both the prospect of winning Charlie back and destroying Sadie. Marie dedicates her life to this evil plot, and is partially successful before she dies, coercing Charlie into an affair and the subsequent abandonment of his wife and children. Marie dies not long after her plan comes into fruition, but her obsession with Charlie and her hatred of Sadie have not abated.
Marie falls ill with ‘brain fever’ and has died, but when she regains awareness, she is unaware of her change of state, believing that she has instead recovered from her illness. Here she awakes with the same confusion displayed by Franchezzo:
When I awoke it was dark, horribly dark. I could almost touch the blackness, and I was lying on a bare floor, cold as a block of ice. I called Charlie—my father—my nurse! But there was no response except the echo of my own voice, which seemed to mock and rejoice at the terror I felt creeping over me. Where was I? Great God! Was it possible I had gone mad, or that I had been placed under restraint to keep me from following Charlie? I rose to inspect where I was, to see my surroundings, but in the fever of my fear I fell—fell without the strength to rise. All my senses resolved themselves into the power of feeling—quickened and intensified a hundredfold so that I might contemplate with horror the process of my own petrification—voiceless, sightless, sleepless. […]
When my memory again took up the thread of life I was still in the state of semi-palpable darkness amid a silence that terrified me to listen to. I still didn’t know where I was. I didn’t understand the nature of the great change that had taken place. But I was quite conscious I had gained strength, was free from actual pain, and had acquired the power to move if I wanted to. I also recognized how greatly my condition had improved from where I had been before I lost consciousness, but I yearned for some degree of light, either natural or artificial, so I could make out my surroundings and make some guess as to what had taken place.”Betty, Stafford. Heaven and Hell Unveiled: Updates from the World of Spirit. (p. 57). White Crow Productions Ltd.. Kindle Edition.
As Marie’s story continues, she eventually calls out in desperation to Charlie, the object of her obsession. Like Franchezzo, this has the effect of creating a circle of light, allowing Marie to visit Charlie. Many years have passed, as she notes from Charlie’s greying hair. Marie still isn’t aware that she has died, and at first believes that she has been reunited with Charlie. She is confused when he doesn’t acknowledge her. She mistakenly thinks that he is intentionally ignoring her, and her confusion turns to rage when Charlie’s new wife comes into the room. It takes over 20 years for Marie to escape the darkness. Although Marie could not perceive anyone other than Charlie, a guide was with Marie the entire time, trying to get through to her. Regardless of what the initial conditions are, no one is left without compassionate help. It required Marie to reevaluate her obsession and hatred before she could perceive anything other than her own misery reflected back to her in the darkness.
Now that we have a better understanding of how a person’s state of mind can seriously alter their afterlife experience, let’s see if we can figure out just what might have happened to Siluan’s brother-in-law, and more importantly, what can be done to help this lost soul. Please remember that this is just my opinion based my study and a fair amount of speculation.
As mentioned, the afterlife is believed to be highly thought-responsive to our beliefs and state of mind. To that end, I believe that Siluan’s brother-in-law unknowingly locked himself into something like mental solitary confinement. As an atheist, he would have believed that only two states exist; the experience of being conscious during physical life, or the extinction of consciousness at death. Since he is indeed still conscious, he would have reasoned that he must still be physically alive. Perception out of the body would necessarily function quite differently, therefore, the lack of physical senses may have compounded his confusion and descent into darkness. After his passing, he may have completely disregarded the flurry of activity around his death as a dream or even changed the narrative to fit his beliefs, such as identifying the body as belonging to someone else (something that often happens in NDEs). Since his focus remains oriented toward his former physical life, he is most likely oblivious to any assistance from the spirit world, like Marie in our earlier example. Based on his comments, “I don’t know where I am; I don’t know how I got here; I am in darkness; I can’t seem to find my way out of this darkness; there is something very strange going on but I don’t know what this is; I can’t see; I don’t know what has happened to me“, it certainly seems to be the case.
“When [an atheist] finds himself on this side of the open door, he will not accept the fact, for he knows that there’s no such place … For a long time this soul may lie in stupor, waiting for the so-called hallucination to pass away. He is vaguely conscious of activity around him, but to him it has no reality. Sometimes a soul wastes eons in this state.”The Realities of Heaven: Fifty Spirits Describe Your Future Home (p. 54). Momentpoint Media. Kindle Edition.
As Siluan’s brother-in-law approached his passing, he may have been visited by deceased relatives or guides in order to prepare his transition. Termed ‘End of Life Dreams and Visions’ or ELDVs, such visitations usually provide great comfort to the dying and their families and may result in a smoother passing and transition into the spirit world. However, if Siluan’s brother-in-law was visited by friends and family that he knows to be deceased, he may have dismissed them entirely as fictitious in accordance with his beliefs. He may have also subconsciously rejected any imagery that he perceives as religious, owing perhaps to a long-buried fear of judgement. Lastly, if Siluan’s brother-in-law passed while focused on his own anger and resentment, this may have further exacerbated his spiritual blindness. Spirits in a state of negativity have a tendency to turn inward, temporarily blocking any input from their new spiritual reality.
What about the 5AM telephone call? As I mentioned before, the ‘how’ is unknown, but I believe that like Franchezzo and Marie, Siluan’s brother-in-law would have sought help from the one person he felt closest to – his sister. In life, he would have simply picked up the phone and called his sister if he needed help. Desperation combined with a strong intention to communicate may have resulted in the telephone ADC. Although it was Siluan who answered, I believe the phone call was intended for Siluan’s wife. The brother-in-law could not perceive Siluan’s responses on the call precisely because he was focused solely on reaching his sister. Therefore, it would have been her voice, and her voice alone, that he would have been able to perceive in that moment.
In the 1920’s, a Psychiatrist named Dr. Carl Wickland became convinced that confused ‘earthbound’ spirits who were unaware of their own passing had attached themselves to his patients. Along with his wife Anna who acted as a medium, Dr. Wickland used his skills as a psychiatrist to minister to these lost souls, explaining their condition and urging them to move on to the spirit world with friends and relatives who had arrived to help them cross.
There is no indication at the moment that Siluan’s brother-in-law is attached to the ‘aura’ of any living humans, but there is some similarity in his condition with the spirits that Dr. Wickland treated. Dr. Wickland was astutely aware that to help these spirits, he had to change their beliefs and state of mind. From Dr. Wickland’s research, we may find some further insight into what may be happening to Siluan’s brother-in-law.
Dr. Wickland details many of his cases in his book “Thirty Years Among the Dead” published in 1924. In his introduction, he explains what he believes occurs when some souls die unaware of their condition and have no expectation of life after death (emphasis mine):
“The change called “death,”-the word is a misnomer-universally regarded with gloomy fear, occurs so naturally and simply that the greater number, after passing out of the physical are not aware that the transition has been made, and having no knowledge of a spiritual life, they are totally unconscious of having passed into another state of being.
Deprived of their physical sense organs, they are shut out from the physical light, and lacking, a mental perception of the high purpose of existence, these individuals are spiritually blind and find themselves in a twilight condition-the “outer darkness” mentioned in the Bible-and linger in the realm known as the Earth Sphere.
Death does not make a saint of a sinner, nor a sage of a fool. The mentality is the same as before and individuals carry with them their old desires, habits, dogmas, faulty teachings, indifference or disbelief in a future life. “As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.” Prov. 23:7. Assuming spirit forms which are the result of their thought life on earth, millions remain for a time in the earth sphere, and often in the environment of their earth lives, still held by their habits or interests. “Where your treasure is there will your heart be also”. Matt. 6:21. Those who have progressed to the higher spirit world ever endeavor to enlighten these earthbound spirits, but the latter, due to preconceptions concerning the hereafter, labor under the delusion that the departed are “dead,” or are “ghosts,” and often refuse to recognize their friends or to realize their own condition.
Many are in a state of heavy sleep, others are lost or confused; troubled minds may be haunted by fear of the strange darkness, those conscience stricken suffer in anguish or remorse for their, earth conduct; some, impelled by selfish or evil inclinations, seek an outlet for their tendencies, remaining in this condition until these destructive desires are outgrown, when the soul cries out for understanding and light, and progressed spirits are able to reach them and aid them.Dr. Carl Wickland. Thirty Years Among the Dead (pp. 5-6). Rev. Steven Earl York. Kindle Edition.
Dr. Wickland’s wife Anna is able to channel these spirits once they are detached from the living host. Dr. Wickland then attempts to convince the spirit that they have died and will not find peace until they leave the earth sphere. Convincing the spirits of their true nature has a single purpose: to allow them to perceive the guides trying to help them from the other side. When a soul is so focused on the earth, often only the living can communicate with them. They remain blind to any communication from other spirits until they realize the truth of their own condition.
Dr. Wickland states that the best way to communicate with such spirits is through the use of a medium, and warns that those who are ill-equipped in dealing with the spirit world should not attempt this work themselves. “Ignorant psychic experimentation may prove injurious when dabbled in by those who neglect the necessary precautions and lack understanding of the laws which govern the subject, just as ignorance and disregard of the laws governing everyday life may prove dangerous” (Wickland, p. 13).
I agree; unless someone is truly experienced with that line of work, I would never recommend attempting direct contact with a spirit. Siluan also mentioned his Christian orthodox religious beliefs, so it is likely that any direct contact with a spirit is forbidden, or at least seriously discouraged. Therefore, my recommended process will not attempt two-way communication with the brother, but will rely on divine intermediaries to provide assistance. It’s still important to have Siluan’s wife address her brother since it’s possible that she is the only one on earth who he is ‘tuned’ into. A prayerful message of forgiveness and guidance may convince the brother-in-law to see and accept the help of spirit guides who will conduct him to the next world. In addition to the guidance provided by Dr. Wick’s process, I have consulted two modern books on spirit rescue and have included some of the author’s recommendations in this process.
From here, I will direct my response to Siluan to discuss the matter of assisting his brother-in-law to complete his transition:
Siluan, I appreciate your kindness toward your brother-in-law and your desire to see his soul rested despite his ill-will toward you. This plan can be modified according to you and your wife’s beliefs and comfort level. The most important aspect is your sincerity. If your request is performed in an honest and prayerful manner, you will have the best chance of success. My hope is that once completed successfully, you will receive some sort of sign that it has worked.
This should be done at night when the world is quiet, and your minds are not cluttered with the worries of the day. You’ll both need to approach this absolute kindness and forgiveness. If you need time to come to terms with any remaining resentment or bitterness, it would be good to discuss it together and resolve any remaining feelings beforehand. An earth-oriented spirit may sense your negativity and it may reinforce their desire to avoid crossing over into the spirit world.
First, you’ll need to choose an intermediary. Since you have mentioned that you are part of an Orthodox Christian religion, I might suggest one of the seven Archangels. The Archangel Azrael is the most obvious choice, but any that you feel comfortable with will be fine. You could also ask a guide or a deceased relative from your wife’s family to assist, preferably someone that your brother-in-law would trust. What is most important is that you feel comfortable with who you are communicating with and that you believe they will have sufficient skill to assist in this situation.
Begin by asking your chosen intermediary to please come to the aid of your brother-in-law and to help facilitate an important message from his sister. Your wife should speak from the heart, so the suggestions I am providing should not serve as a script, but as a guide.
I would recommend your wife begin by explaining to her brother that his body has died and was cared for according to his wishes. What he has been experiencing is not a dream or hallucination, but his own consciousness or mind that has survived death. You wife might mention that the darkness he is experiencing is temporary and help is coming. You may wish to also express your own forgiveness to this man, despite how he has treated you. Reiterate how much that you love and care for his sister, and did not intend to supplant him in her life.
When you are ready, ask the intermediary to open a portal to the spirit world. If you chose a family member or friend in spirit to assist, ask the intermediary to bring them close. Visualize a light appearing in the darkness, like a brilliantly lit door opening into a dark room. You wife should now say something similar to this: “[Brother], look around you. Do you see a place that is getting lighter? Look for the light around you. Look closely. Do you see someone that you know there? Someone is there waiting for you. It’s okay to go with them. They aren’t here to judge you, they are here to help you. All people are welcome, including you. You will still be able to visit with me, but for now it’s important that you go with them. There’s a beautiful world waiting for you there, so there is no more reason to stay in the darkness.”
You and your wife may be able to sense a feeling of closure when this is completed. Lastly, ask the intermediary to send you a sign in the next few days to tell you that your brother-in-law has made the transition successfully.
Siluan, thank you again for sharing this experience with me and with the readers of the blog. I sincerely hope that you and your wife experience closure and that your brother-in-law finds peace in the next world.
Thankfully, distressing transition experiences like what may have occurred with Siluan’s brother-in-law seem to be rare. In the vast majority of spirit communications, the process of dying is described as beautiful welcoming to a bright realm of love and joy. Deathbed visions, or ELDVs, can provide a tantalizing glimpse of the boundary between our world and the next. One of the first investigators to record ELDVs, also called ‘Deathbed Visions’ was Sir William Barrett, a co-founder of the Society of Psychical Research. In his book ‘Deathbed Visions’ published in 1926, he relates an experience witnessed by his wife at the bedside of a young woman dying after giving birth. Initially, she was frightened by her failing condition, but soon became filled with a look of wonder as she stared off into the distance. When asked by Lady Barrett what she was seeing, she replied, “Lovely brightness.. wonderful beings!” They brought her newborn to her which she considered lovingly, wondering if she could stay for her baby’s sake. Retuning to the vision, she said, “I can’t—I can’t stay; if you could see what I do, you would know I can’t stay.” She passed away an hour later, in peace.
Another more recent deathbed vision was shared by the family of Steve Jobs, founder of Apple. Jobs’ last moments were described by his sister in her eulogy:
“Before embarking, he’d looked at his sister Patty, then for a long time at his children, then at his life’s partner, Laurene, and then over their shoulders past them.
“Steve’s final words were: ‘Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow.”The Guardian, 2011
Even for those spirits who pass with some difficulty, I would like to reassure my readers that the spirits describe a realm of caring, compassionate souls. What will become of Siluan’s brother-in-law in the next world? We can hope that with the loving guidance provided, he will let go of his fear and hate, opening himself up to the great new adventure that awaits. His guide will commend his soul into the care of those who specialize in rehabilitation. Perhaps he will find his way to The Rest Home where Francis Banks, a former Catholic Nun, is now ministering to wounded souls like Siluan’s brother-in-law, that he may be freed from his earthly sorrows and begin a new life in the spirit world.
“Our work is to be on hand when those newly arrived entities awake to awareness…Our “patients” stay with us until they have adjusted to this new life and are ready to join their dear ones or their special Groups….With understanding, extreme gentleness and certainly no hint of censure, the Sisters explain the Rest Home and its purpose. The newcomers are then introduced to the idea of an expanding progress and are encouraged to right the wrongs they have done in their earth lives by concentrated thoughts of forgiveness and compassion. I suppose you could call this a hospital, a home of rest upon the Way and a “kindergarten” teaching-center. All these terms would be correct. The weary souls, the frightened souls, the ignorant and “fallen” souls, together with those who have been “rescued” from the “Land of Shadows” require understanding and explanation of their sore states, and there are some to whom Survival has to be explained, even demonstrated. Many will not accept the fact of death, or prefer to consider that they still dream.”
“Thoughts are truly things. That is why, when an entity comes over to this plane he, or she, automatically graduates to the rightful plane. That is Law. It also explains why some folk are so surprised and dismayed at their surroundings. For instance, one who has lived an ordinary good life shall we say, doing the right things, attending to his outward religious observances, but all the time concealing within himself black thoughts of envy, malice, uncharitableness, will find himself in the company of such as he is, and sometimes of those worse than he is. Dismay will fill his soul until he realizes that this great Law is just, and until he makes efforts to adjust his thinking to Love, Charity, Truth and to try to redress the wrongs he has worked on others. In these efforts there is always help at hand, always more advanced souls ready to comfort, to listen and to teach him. There are souls too, ready to guide him to higher realms and to happier company.”Greaves, Helen. Testimony of Light: An Extraordinary Message of Life After Death (pp. 84-85, 87). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
References and Recommended Reading
Vistas of Infinity – How to Enjoy Life When You Are Dead. Ziewe, Jurgen. Lulu.com, 2016
A Wanderer In The Spirit Lands. A. Farnese; Franchezzo. 1896
Heaven and Hell Unveiled: Updates From the World of Spirit. Betty, Stafford. White Crow Books, 2014
The Realities of Heaven: Fifty Spirits Describe Your Future Home. Allen, Miles Edward. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2015
Thirty Years Among the Dead. Wickland, Carl A. 1924
Testimony of Light: An Extraordinary Message of Life After Death. Greaves, Helen. Penguin Publishing Group, 1977
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55 thoughts on “A Disturbing Phone Call from the Other Side Reveals a Soul In Crisis”
Jenn your piece is wonderfully enlightening and uplifting. I’d say you’ve been truly inspired putting together all that information in such an easy-to-follow, easy-to-read explanation of a situation many may have wondered about.
The following words jumped out at me: “What we call ‘the afterlife’ is more akin to a mental state than a physical location.” That situation dawned on me only recently and my reaction had been: “Of course – why didn’t I get that earlier!?” It’s taken 30 odd years for the penny to drop for me and much of that time I’d been skirting round the edges, not quite seeing the picture. Thank you for reinforcing so well my eventual understanding. 🙂
I hope you won’t mind my re-posting your piece, fully attributed to you of course, on the tiny afterlife website where I’m the ‘janitor’. (https://afterlifeforums.com/threads/by-jenn-on-wordpress.3656/) It will provide stimulating food for thought for some of our members. (I will, of course, remove it if you’re not comfortable with what I’ve done.)
with my best wishes, ‘mac’
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I’m honored that you reposted this article! No, of course I don’t mind at all. Thank you for taking the time to comment and for all of your kind words. I completely understand what you mean about having a ‘eureka moment’. I had the same a few years ago when I finally realized that the afterlife is multilayered and that spirit communications don’t make sense until you can determine around what level they are speaking from. Before that, nothing seemed to match up. Now I can see the patterns. It was thrilling to finally realize that. Thanks again, I’ll come over and visit afterlifeforums too. ☺️
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Thank you Jenn for your wonderfully perceptive article, filled with lots of useful information!
I have to excuse myself as I could not log in with my previous credentials and so I made another account with a slightly different name, but it’s still me, Siluan!
I found out so much about these phenomena by reading your material, and now I understand much better what might have happened to my brother-in-law.
I will follow up on the sources quoted in your material, for now I want to find out more. Me and my wife are not young either, and I think this knowledge is extremely useful and comes in handy in all situations of life. One way or another, we are all going to pass through to “the other side”, so the more we know about it, the better.
We will certainly try to contact my wife’s brother using the the steps you have described, and hope to bring a measure of solace to his troubled spirit.
He was a lonesome and bitter individual in his later years. You are absolutely right about his problems, which you very perceptively deciphered. He was a university professor and after hiding for most of his life, sometime in the early eighties he thought it would be allright to come out in the open about his homosexuality. It was not – he was ostracized, despised, made fun of by both students and staff, and ultimately forced to resign and leave his teaching position. He carried on doing research work and writing, but it was never the same for him. Also, I think his problems with religion might have had some link to his sexual preferences too.
Anyway, I hope we will be able to help him find his way and ultimately reach towards the light.
Once again, thank you for the work you do and the way you help people like us, bringing us solace and such a wealth of information.
You are truly blessed and a gift to all bereaved people everywhere!
Dear Siluan, you had a truly remarkable experience. I am very curious about such happenings. Is it possible to exchange few e-mails with you as I would love to know more? I don’t want to post questions here as I believe this matters are private. My e-mail is email@example.com. Thanks and best regards, Tomas
In response, Tomas, I think I should point out that those who respond here are equally interested in Siluan’s experiences – I certainly am.
Still waiting for that e-mail to come…
You’ll receive it when/if he decides to email you….. 😉
Siluan, your kindness is very touching, thank you so much. I’m so glad that you feel that this information will be helpful and that it had encouraged you to learn more. The books I listed are all fascinating on their own, and together they may fill in there picture for you. I especially love the books by Dr. Stafford Betty. I have a page called recommended reading here that has many of my favorites plus a little review if you are interested. Thank you for filling in the details about your brother-in-law. As I was writing the post, I was trying not to speculate too much about him, but it sounds like he was truly a tortured soul. I feel badly for what he went through, though it certainly wasn’t a reason to treat anyone else poorly. I do sincerely hope he finds his way to the light. Please feel free to contact me anytime with questions or if you get any more signs. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. Wishing you and your wife all the best! Take care, Jenn
Thank you Jenn, I will certainly look into those books from the “Recommended reading” page!
We try to gather the needed psychic strength to try and send my brother inlaw’s spirit towards the Light. It is difficult, and we both feel we need a bit more time in order to be able to do it.
Let’s hope all will go well.
We’ll keep you posted.
All the best for you and all your readers!
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Siluan, it sounds like you and your wife are sincere about doing this the right way, and know how important you’re own state of mind is about the process. Besides helping your brother in law get to the light, I’m so glad this may have kicked off your own search for life after death, or at least encouraged you to seek out additional perspectives on the matter. The core belief is not contradictory with Christianity, actually most spirit communicators validate Christ as a major force in this world and the next. I hope your journey strengthens your faith and gives you hope. Take care and please do reach out from time to time and let us know how things are going!
Siluann, are you also A M? There are two same comments under the article where you have posted your first comment under the name Siluan… That is a little bit odd… Is it possible to check facts from your story?
If you are asking whether Siluan is me – mac / angusmacro – then the answer is categorically ‘no’.
Maybe it’s the blog format that causes confusion. It certainly can confuse me and I dislike responding to someone’s blog because it IS confusing but also because a comment can’t be edited after posting. That means simple mistakes can’t be tidied up.
Siluann and Siluan are the same person – this is explained elsewhere in this blog responses thread.
It’s true..the commenting format is really impossible to understand. I’ve tried changing it recently and I wonder if that is adding to the confusion. Does anyone have an opinion… Should it be most recent on top with last page displayed first? Ugh. I’ll have to play with the settings.
I don’t know the answer, Jenna and it’s a situation I see on the blog of my website’s owner.
I don’t know what alternate layouts are possible but I am most familiar with a forum-style thread layout where the most recent posting is seen at the top (or the bottom) of the page.
That does mean, though, that an earlier posting may later receive a response that is hopelessly separated in time from it. By that time any number of other postings may have been made. It’s the reason a ‘Quote’ button is invaluable even though many may still fail to use it!
Jenna? Jenny! I’ve been writing to a Jeana only this morning……oopsies
Lol! It’s all good! 😆
Jenny? JENN! Oh dear Lord, I’ll get it right eventually! 😉
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I just signed up at the forums, by the way, looking forward to getting into some interesting conversations. 👍
I saw you, approved your application, a few days back. I’ll look forward to reading. 🙂
No, I am not saying that… This has nothing to do with you… Just see the newest comment under the article ‘After Death Communications: How to Encourage Signs From Loved Ones In Spirit’ and you will see that after Siluan’s comment there is the same comment following, just few minutes apart, but written from the different profile…
One of Siluan’s posts ended up in moderation (which I will admit I don’t check as often as I should). When he didn’t see the post appear he probably thought it didn’t take and tried again. It happens; I don’t take it as suspicious. Many others have said they’ve had problems too.
I thought you had meant ME when you wrote “A M” – I guess you didn’t….?
quote: “Just see the newest comment under the article ‘After Death Communications: How to Encourage Signs From Loved Ones In Spirit’ ”
I don’t know where I’m supposed to look for the above although I’m sure I’ve seen it recently somewhere – can you link its location, please?
Scratch that – I managed to find the thread and your question. Now I see what you were meaning….
I am glad that you have find it 🙂
Shuca82, Siluan already mentioned that he was having difficulty with the accounts here. I don’t think there is anything nefarious going on. I also don’t think it would be appropriate for Siluan to reveal anything more about his identity on the internet. Even if you could prove that he had a brother in law, that wouldn’t prove anything about his experience. Subjective experiences make up a lot of what we study here, which is why we never say that we have “proof”, just evidence. It’s up to each individual person to decide for themselves what they believe based on the facts presented. I believe Siluan had a real experience, but I don’t need proof that Siluan’s story is real to believe that telephone ADCs happen in general which is enough for me to want to explore it. 😊
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Hi Jenn, I am fine with that 🙂 That is a fair approach 🙂 But I just like to go a little bit deeper… And private info can easily be exchanged without the world seeing it.
I understand, thanks for clarifying. I just didn’t want Siluan to add any info to the public comments. You may have good intentions but the internet is a scary place sometimes 😊
You are 100% correct… But, I can give him my e-mail if he is willing… If not, I understand…
Hi Siluan, I believe in paranormal and afterlife. However, I like to check facts from stories like yours myself. Is it possible to verify your account? I will keep your privacy safe. Thanks.
I read with great interest this post.
Transcommunication is a very important tool for contacting the departed, and this case sems a clear proof of such occurence – even if the soul who attempted the call was in pain and somehow lost.
I sincerely hope his family members will help him out of this temporary situation and lead him to salvation.
I have one question; you said “There is no indication at the moment that Siluan’s brother-in-law is attached to the ‘aura’ of any living humans”
What exactly does this mean?
Is such a thing possible?
I ask because we too had a death in the family recently and since then another member of the family seems to be continuously tired and devoid of energy, with no physical explanation and without suffering from any ailment.
Could it have something to do with what you said?
If yes, could you elaborate a bit – signs, what we can do etc?
I have to mention that this family member was not too close to the deceased, so it’s not depression or such thing.
Thanks a lot.
Spirit attachment is an interesting, somewhat controversial area in Spiritualism. It sounds like your question would be another good post. I’ll need to gather up my resources but I would be interested to know if there’s is any other symptoms that would lead you or your family member to believe that spirit attachment would be an issue?
Thank you for your comment! I look forward to exploring this further
Thank you for the answer. I will try to tell a bit more about the problem.
The deceased was a cousin.
She was not too close to our family due to material issues our parents had a long time ago (an inheritance problem which led to family diferences). There was no open, violent conflict, but the family drifted apart and we lost contact with each other over the years.
She died unexpectedly a few months ago, in a car accident.
My younger brother had felt closer to her, as she used to babysit him when he was a few years old, before the family inheritance problems. He could not make it to the funeral since her side of the family did not tell us about it in good time, and he was saddened a little by this.
A few weeks after the cousin’s passing, he had some strange dreams in which she appeared to him and asked for food and water ?!
Not knowing what to do, he went to the local homeless shelter and arranged for a meal to be served to the assisted persons there.
After that, he started to feel inexplicably tired all the time. He is devoid of energy, would lie in bed all day if possible but not always sleep, feels listless and unable to concentrate. It’s not something definite, more of a general malaise. It all seemed to start after he had those dreams and paid for the meals.
He is in his mid-thirties, with no health problems whatsoever, plays tennis, swims, eats natural products, doesn’t smoke or drink alcohol.
He has no professional problems either.
He did not have any special emotional ties to the deceased, except for a few tender reminiscences from where she babysat him ages ago – so he is not depressed or anything.
Could it be a case of the deceased’s spirit attaching itself to his aura? Is there a connection to his dreams?
Should we look for other signs?
Is there anything we can do to help him?
Thanks, and my apologies for a long post!
This is very interesting. Thank you for the additional information. That dream is extremely telling and I think it’s important to the case. This is a personal question, and you don’t have to answer it if you don’t want to. Did you or the deceased have any Asian or Indian heritage or connections? Does your family have any religious affiliations, even culturally?
Thank you again and I look forward to investigating this in a post.
Edit: if you would feel more comfortable, please feel free to email me directly at email@example.com.
No, we do not have any Asian or Indian heritage.
We are ethnic Germans, but my family moved to the UK many years ago, when I was a toddler and my brother was not yet born.
The deceased cousin’s family was already in the UK, and after my brother was born she babysat him for a while, as our parents both worked and child care in the UK more than 30 years was not that great as I understand. Later, because of that conflict over a grandparent’s inheritance, our families drifted apart; over the years her family moved to Scotland and our family stayed in the south, so we lost contact.
We are not a very religious or superstitious family at all.
I look forward to reading your post on this, and finding out any advice which could help my brother get better.
I finally finished the post on spirit attachment. I apologize that it took longer than I would have liked – my day job had me working weekends these last two weeks, so I didn’t get as much time as I wanted to do the research and writing. But, I think (I hope) I will have provided you and your brother with some information that can help. I wanted to also recommend Dr. Edith Fiore’s book The Unquiet Dead to you because it has a chapter on dealing with attachments on your own. None of the other sources I found had this information. I distilled the basics in the post and by following that, you will be well-prepared to attempt the detachment, but the book has additional information that I couldn’t include in the post. I hope your brother feels better and regains his quality of life – whether the cause is spiritual, physical or emotional. That is ultimately the most important thing. I hope this can be of some help, and best wishes to you and your brother.
I’ve had to re-think about the way I will speak in future to seekers about the so-called afterlife.
In my earlier years I would be enthusiastic that most of us will find ourselves with loved ones after our passing. That’s likely to be true for most but not all and I hate to mislead anyone. I suppose that even in those earlier times I was aware that some would not find themselves in such happy places without really considering all the circumstances where it might happen.
I did understand that some souls would find it hard to change from their incarnate ways but failed to appreciate what a trying time some could face. I knew of the term ‘outer darkness’ but Siluan’s story gives a good illustration of how dark that darkness can be – and how pervasive.
For most I’ll still be encouraging but I’ve now realised I might need to be less encouraging of the few I sometimes encounter whose way in life and towards others is cold, bleak and unfriendly. These individuals may need words to help them re-consider the way they are living. Gotta be cruel to be kind sometimes…..
I’ll be honest, Mac, until Siluan’s experience, I was a little unsure that void experiences still happened outside of NDEs. It’s very rare that we would get confirmation of one, but I agree.. This changes the way I think about the afterlife experience too. I know some people who fit the description of Siluan’s BIL and I’m concerned for them. Another interesting and related experience happens to certain Christians who believe that their soul must “sleep” until the resurrection. I’ve seen a few examples where guides can’t wake them up! They just remain unconscious in the afterlife for a long time. It’s amazing just how powerful our beliefs can be. Thank you for your thoughts. 😊 Jenn
Hi Jenn – I used to think I had a fair understanding, albeit one without a lot of details, about what goes on after we leave this earth. I thought I wouldn’t find my views being changed after three and a half decades but your piece has made me think again. It seems there are odd – but very important – pieces of the jigsaw still missing even though I hadn’t really appreciated that situation. And yet…..
The words of spirit guides and teachers given via mediumship have always indicated that we will find ourselves in the company of individuals at a similar level of spiritual progression. I learned from one teacher that some who were firmly wedded to their particular religion could be found after their deaths still together and following their religious practices, seemingly unaware of their new situation and/or others around them. Based on what they’d been taught as incarnates they were so certain what they would find after their passing that they did indeed find just that and the company of other ‘true believers’. As we’ve often heard told, they’d created a new world by the strength of their beliefs.
But I had thought the outer darkness situation would apply mainly to those who had been deeply malevolent in life rather than sadly misguided. It seems, though, the eventual outcomes may be little different and both categories of individuals will need the help of experienced and knowledgeable spirit ‘rescuers’.
Your piece, Jenn, and particularly the sentence I mentioned earlier, has prompted me to re-consider other communication issues, especially the so-called Soul Phone about which I’ve always been skeptical.
I could never figure if our sciences would be compatible with etheric sciences and forum discussions on that subject didn’t move it forward! But it seems to me that if, as I now accept, the so-called Summerland dimension is ‘virtual’ then communication via a physical device on our side with anyone living in such a dimension looks highly improbable.
Well remember that there are varying degrees of virtual. There are consensus realities that are quite slow for those spirits who can’t get their thoughts under control. Jurgen Ziewe talks about visiting those in OBEs. They are like Earth 2. I think we get most of our communication from these lower levels anyway.
quote: “Well remember that there are varying degrees of virtual.”
Yes I’ve already raised a similar point over on ALF.
I agree with you that much of what ‘ordinary mortals’ get to learn comes from those still comparatively spiritually inexperienced and/or unevolved – I stress comparatively because we have no absolute values against which to compare. They are – perhaps understandably – the ones still ‘closest’ to the earth dimension and most close in their so-called vibrations to those of our physical dimension.
I was watching a Skeptiko podcast the other day and Alex mentioned the soul phone in terms that made it seem like he also didn’t think it has much of a chance. I don’t think the powers that be in the spirit world are ready for the veil to be completely torn open. I always remember Dr. Newton (of LBL fame) saying that he eventually stopped regressing people younger than 30 because their guides blocked nearly everything. They hadn’t lived enough of their life plan yet I guess. So there are “gate keepers” of a sort who may interfere with communication.
My doubts about the so-called soul phone is a compatibility issue. Whether it’s anything like a cell phone or some other kind of device I see a fundamental mismatch of the dimensions, an issue that would prevent independent interchanges between discarnates and incarnates. (non-sensitives that is) I don’t anticipate any involvement by “powers that be” because I don’t expect there’s any hierarchical structure that would either sanction or veto trans-dimensional contact.
The definitive role of so-called guides is unclear other than to act in our best interests but how that might apply in practice to subjects under regression I have no idea. Similarly in respect of the actions of so-called gatekeepers.
Sorry for the delay in answering.
I will explain to shuca82 “why there is an identical comment which seems to come from two different accounts”.
I posted our experience here because we are genuinely concerned about this occurence and want to understand it and help my brother-in-law in the situation he is now.
Jenn very kindly offered to write a whole article about our experience, and both my wife and I were understandably very impatient to read it and learn from its wealth of information.
We got the impression our approval was needed for Jenn to start writing; so I (Siluan) immediately posted an answer stating that we agreed to it and were eagerly awaiting Jenn’s article
I am not sure what happened but my answer did not appear on the site and my account got deleted somehow.
That is why I made another account, using the name Siluann – I explained in a post all about it. The name is different (by a letter) but it’s still me.
In the meantime, because we really wanted Jenn to write the article, my wife (Amanda Meredith) made an acount for herself using her initials, AM, and posted the same comment I had previously posted as Siluan – which had vanished. It was basically just our agreement for Jenn to go on with writing the article.
Later I saw that both my comment and my wife’s comment had appeared.
There is nothing weird or dishonest here; it’s just that we wanted to read Jenn’s article. When my post giving her permission to transform our experience into an article failed to appear, my wife reposted the same text using her account. Basically, we were eager to read what Jenn had to share with us, and we can’t thank her enough for it!
As for the rest – I am not sure what exactly would you want me to do – to give you my brother in law’s name so you can verify he is dead? I can assure you he is, and as I said previously, all of us are over 50 y.o so really not given to pranks or bad jokes – not about something like this.
Siluann, I didn’t want to be disrespectful. I am just a person that needs a little bit more evidence as internet is full of extraordinary claims. I hope that you understand my perspective. I believe in afterlife, but I just like to have more info when stories like yours are told.
Thank you for explaining situation with double profiles. Now that you have disclosed name of your wife, can you please tell me the name of her brother? That is all I ask to accept your story and it’s not something that would jeopardize you. I just need one that little push.
I hope that you and your wife will handle this situation the best you can. Thank you for understanding.
quote: “I am just a person that needs a little bit more evidence as internet is full of extraordinary claims. I hope that you understand my perspective. I believe in afterlife, but I just like to have more info when stories like yours are told.”
With all due respect, Jenn’s blog is not the internet but if you wander around the world wide web you’ll find all manner of junk and fanciful claims. Siluan’s wasn’t such a case. What you’ll get from Jenn’s work are considered pieces with explanations. She is an experienced, knowledgeable researcher and author and an expert on afterlife and spiritual matters.
quote: “Now that you have disclosed name of your wife, can you please tell me the name of her brother? That is all I ask to accept your story and it’s not something that would jeopardize you. I just need one that little push. ”
Siluan is of course able to speak for himself but my perspective is that he came here to seek help to understand his experiences and not to persuade anyone or provide additional evidence.
Thanks for the comment, but I have explained myself both to Jenn and Siluann. I respect this blog and like reading it. I have just asked few questions and that’s it. If someone wants to answer it or not, it’s fine with me. And we all have different perspective, nothing wrong with that.
shuca I respect your approach and suggest you and maybe other contributors might wish to pursue this discussion in a forum.
Of course we all have our own perspectives and might wish to ask further questions to better understand a subject – it’s something I often do myself but a forum discussion is easier to follow than one on a blog.
I’m sure Jenn won’t mind my inviting her blog visitors to also visit afterlifeforums.com the way Jenn has already done. You’ll be very welcome there. We have numerous forums that encompass afterlife and communication interests, the very issues we’ve been considering here.
In response to tomasm67 – I noted your email, and will contact you at some point, but not just yet.
We are still shaken a bit by all that happened, and not comfortable talking about it yet.
All the best, Siluann.
I’m pleased and relieved you’re responding the way you have to a request to allow questioning by someone you don’t know; especially so when others here are offering responses intended to be helpful and supportive. The aims of theorists are not always as supportive.
Dear Siluan, thanks for the reply. I am waiting for your e-mail. I assure you that this is completely a private inquiry as I am interested in experiences like yours. Your privacy will not be violated in any way. And I completely understand your feelings. Best regards,
I want to thank everyone who answered to my post. Your comments and insights have been very helpful for both me and my wife, in this sad situation for us.
A special thanks to Jenn, again – she is the focus of an informative and well-researched site, which is very useful both for people interested in such occurences, and for bereaved persons in search of answers, such as we.
Will return with news after my wife and I gather the strength to go on with what Jenn has advised us to do.
All the best to everyone here!
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You don’t have to worry, everything will be fine. In time. I know that from experiences of other people to whom I have talked last several year, while immersing in paranormal, and who all had there share of spooky experiences… Eventually, all of them now have a more positive spiritual attitude towards life…
I didn’t mean anything wrong by asking more evidence… That’s me… I like to know more, I like to check things… I hope that you understand that. After you have published the name of your wife, I had hoped that you would do the same with your brother in law… But if you don’t want that… ok… It’s strange to me, but ok… All the best to you and yor family…
For counter-balance over this, Siluan, I don’t find your reluctance to keep adding more details at all strange. These matters are personal to you and there’s no obligation to share with anyone else.
Neither do I see your experience as this guy does – “spooky”. He appears more interested in the paranormal whereas my interest has been in survival and communication which I see as completely normal rather than paranormal. I discuss and write about these topics routinely and have done for over three and a half decades.
I’m expecting you will feel more reassured having discussed your experiences here and learned there is always help on offer for those unfortunate individuals needing it. There is much we humans don’t know about what happens after we pass but if you find you’d like to hear what others think or would like to raise a question then why not visit us on afterlifeforums.com?